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| Greenpeace Leader Admits Arctic Ice Exaggeration |
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The outgoing leader of Greenpeace has admitted his organization's recent claim that the Arctic Ice will disappear by 2030 was "a mistake." Greenpeace made the claim in a July 15 press release entitled "Urgent Action Needed As Arctic Ice Melts," which said there will be an ice-free Arctic by 2030 because of global warming. Under close questioning by BBC reporter Stephen Sackur on the "Hardtalk" program, Gerd Leipold, the retiring leader of Greenpeace, said the claim was wrong. "I don't think it will be melting by 2030. ... That may have been a mistake," he said. Sackur said the claim was inaccurate on two fronts, pointing out that the Arctic ice is a mass of 1.6 million square kilometers with a thickness of 3 km in the middle, and that it had survived much warmer periods in history than the present. The BBC reporter accused Leipold and Greenpeace of releasing "misleading information" and using "exaggeration and alarmism." Leipold's admission that Greenpeace issued misleading information is a major embarrassment to the organization, which often has been accused of alarmism but has always insisted that it applies full scientific rigor in its global-warming pronouncements. Although he admitted Greenpeace had released inaccurate but alarming information, Leipold defended the organization's practice of "emotionalizing issues" in order to bring the public around to its way of thinking and alter public opinion. Leipold said later in the BBC interview that there is an urgent need for the suppression of economic growth in the United States and around the world. He said annual growth rates of 3 percent to 8 percent cannot continue without serious consequences for the climate. "We will definitely have to move to a different concept of growth. ... The lifestyle of the rich in the world is not a sustainable model," Leipold said. "If you take the lifestyle, its cost on the environment, and you multiply it with the billions of people and an increasing world population, you come up with numbers which are truly scary."
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Keith Dunstan
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a little hypocracy? According to Leipold, "the lifestyle of the rich in the world is not a sustainable model". Unfortunately, the lifestyle of the poor and starving is. Who gets to chose. Greenpeace members perhaps? I wonder if Leipold will go hungry tonight? The entire issue of climate change was never a scientific one-that was put to bed back in the 1970's (Al Gore slept throught it). Rather it is a political and economic issue. No one has ever accused environmentalists of having an abundance of scientific knowledge. Unfortunately, most of the scientific community agreeing to this sham are bioligists and not physical scientists. The origianl correlations between historical carbon dioxide and temperature levels first postulated over 100 years ago was based on very unsound principle of gas chemistry. Unfortunately, we as a society tend to not let facts get in the way of agendas. |
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Ernie Banks
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inconvenient truth It is a rather inconvenient truth that planet temperatures have declined over the last decade. All of the climate change models predicted the opposite. So what should happen? The climate change alarmists should change their models and figure out why they were wrong. Instead, they bury their head in the sand and claim that nothing has changed. Climate change is a theory. It should be possible to disprove it. Recent data disproves the climate change theories - it points to a much more complex system than just man-made CO2 as the cause. If Al Gore's theory cannot be disproved, then it becomes a religion, not science. The government should not be supporting this religion with our tax dollars. It is time for us to insist on the separation of church and state. |
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Mark Hunter
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Effects of CO2 are not linear ! The biggest flaw in the global warming theory overlooks one basic physical fact; as the concentration of atmospheric CO2 increases, the so-called greenhouse effect only increases asymtotically, not linearly. And then they also neglect to tell us that we are already far out on that asymtotic curve. So far in fact that we would have to go back to living like cavemen (burning what?) to make a significant decrease in the greenhouse effect. Cap and trade is nothing but a government scheme to collect more taxes, while blaming the utility companies. USA is the Saudi Arabia of coal, and we should NOT hobble our economy by such foolishness as cap & trade, or any other scheme to FORCE us away from coal-fired electric production. |
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Lavaux
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A taste of their own medicine Look, since the global warmists are exploiting scare tactics, why not return the favor? For example, I'd like to see the GOP run an ads in opposition to Cap & Tax showing a family of six huddled around a trash can fire in their front yard in front of their unlit, run-down house on a cold, dark evening. The camera zooms in on little Billy as he reluctantly drops his beloved teddy bear in the fire as tears streak down his sooty face. Then the camera zooms out, showing first the neighborhood where everyone else is hovering over their own trashcan fires, and then the town, glowing dimly beneath a smoky shroud, then the country, whose urban areas are no longer visible from the sky, to outer space, where we can see that the polar ice cap has expanded over the northern half of Canada. In the final scene as the dialog about the devastation that Cap & Trade will visit on the American economy begins, we see a gaily lit mansion atop a hill, and just behind the sound of a generator we hear soft chamber music, glasses clinking and laughter. In the front yard, lit by its own electric lamp, the camera pans to a political campaign sign that says "Gore - Pelosi (D)". We pan past the 10-foot high security wall topped with concertina wire to the guard shack, where three armed men are huddled around a trashcan fire. The dialog ends, and one guard says to the other, "You got that right, man; the American dream is not for everyone anymore." |
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dennis poole
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climate change Governments around the globe have systematically overspent their income from tax to such an extent that the only way to recover such spending is to create mass hysteria about global warming and therefore bring in Carbon tax schemes that will penalise us to oblivion, Throughout my school years we were taught that the world is a living planet and many things change without our help. Did the world warm up and cool down thousands of years ago with our help, no it did not and who is to say it cannot happen again, not just because prime ministers say so. |
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S V Richard
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Canada would have to become hotter then Florida for god sake! LOL!!! Referring to Greenpeace's 2030 Arctic ice melting claim; Would mean for the next 20 years the Arctic ice would have to melt an average of 150m per year (492.1 ft/yr) or more precisely .4m/day which is 41cm/day, 1.35ft/day, 16.2 inches/day!!! ...every day and night and for the next 20 years! OMG! I mean how silly is that... LOL! Canada would have to become hotter then Florida! ... I guess it'd keep us Canadians from traveling in the south each year during our 4 months of below zero temp... and we are not that close to the Arctic btw (1400+ miles south of) Gore's claim goes beyond delusional; Arctic ice's center at 3km deep melting in a 5 year span = 1.65m/day or 5.4ft/day on average day and night... 5.4ft/day of melted ice!!! Forget about any hokey stick, here comes the boomerang effect. LOL! |
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Bruce PINKNEY
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A Part Soulition ? I don't have much of a resume to dazzel anyone with but after 60 some years of looking at the doings of the world I find myself in, I'd like to offer the following comments. The United States Government would do well to listen , for once to the people of the country for a change and stop the madness put on agendas like global warming or climate change. I've seen on various web sites the pictures of GHEM TRAILS ,and read all kinds of articles on the subject and am sure that this spraying dosen't do anything For the state of things in general. Just GOOGLE CHEM TRAILS for yourselves and then go outside and look at your skies. This could be a crime against HUMANITY right before your eyes ! Nothing happens when good people do nothing so maybe call your elected Reps. about this and your neighbor etc.. If the use of fossil fuel is the greater part of the problem then instruct your Government to open the patent office and get these free energy devices out into public domain. www. free energy . Did I mention I'm a licenced mechanic and welder fabricator with 44 yrs experiance. I'm no scientist for sure but when you burn oxygen you use up the output of a whole bunch of trees etc.. Do you think an electricly powered vehicle or magneticaly powered generator for your home would make a difference? Please think about this and act for the sake of the children,now and to come. BLUECHIEF |
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Flu-Bird
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... Only a total idiot would have anything to do with GRENPEACE and its band of pirates and hoods |
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